Good changes,
I was afraid that ugly blue tint on Libadwaita apps was going to be pushed onto the users. But since it’s not listed in the changes, it looks like it has been put off for now, thank God.
I tried ISO and I am not happy if the blue color tint makes it into the release.
It seems rushed and for no good reason.
The user gave a valid reason why this is not a good change and, as a result, got the request pushed and locked.
The blue tint is still in 48.
Personally, I also don’t like the change. Never liked the blue tint in Plasma either. It’s funny how this release Gnome is going more blue and Plasma 6.4 is going less blue with their tint.
This thread about a release isn’t the place for continuing a discussion about the color of the bikeshed. Feel free to open a separate, new thread.
Is there any reason a blue tint was decided upon? As this is purely an aesthetic choice, wouldn’t tinting with the accent color make more sense? ZorinOS already does this, but go a little too far in my opinion, to the point of noticeably reducing contrast.
To me, it looks like a selfish decision from GNOME developers. They want to make it “iOS-like,” as they said on the PR on GitLab.
This will definitely come with a huge backlash from the community if it makes it into the release, especially since GNOME gets praise for accessability, and this is a step down from it.
@guters: The PR explicitly mentions “GitLab, Firefox, iOS” and that “other platforms have done this as well, we’re not very special in this regard”, so your comment “making it iOS-like” feels rather misleading.
Using the term “selfish decisions” while ignoring the previous explanation about other platforms unneededly takes this to a personal level. Please see https://conduct.gnome.org/ and keep a civil tone towards other humans. Thanks.
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It’s a shame the PR was closed before any constructive discussion could be had. I don’t know where the claim that other platforms tint the entire background of applications blue came from, I haven’t found one for which that is the case.
Look up some screenshots of iOS dark mode, Windows 11 file explorer and settings. All the ones I have found so far use neutral greys in dark mode and pure white in light mode.
MacOS does tint the background blue… if the accent is set to blue. If you set it to orange, it’s tinted orange. In my opinion it looks rather nice, GNOME should do the same.
This really looks like a random design decision that came out of nowhere, and was seemingly merged mostly because Alice couldn’t see the difference and got tired of arguing.
There are plenty of examples of tinting navigational panels, headers, or other elements, as is the case in gitlab, Firefox, and this forum, but that’s not what’s being implemented here.
I used the term “selfish” in reference to the PR being locked while receiving negative feedback from community members. I will have to change DE if this makes it into the release. It’s an issue for me, a frustrating one, and I think it does not make sense overall. That’s why I reacted this way. I apologise if it comes across as unprofessional.
Let’s now focus on objective points this time so far; I will write my opinion in parentheses.
Blue tint:
- there is little difference (I can’t call this an entirely objective argument)
- everyone does it (I will call it a trend; it does not mean it is a good one)
- positive feedback based on other platforms like iOS, Firefox, GitLab (this is the way I understood it)
Grey:
- neutral color
- good for graphic design
- blue color is more tiring on the eyes
- better for accessibility (things like contrast and other colors)
Feel free to add more points below.